Can Minesweeper be beaten with no luck


* Both games have a good hand-eye coordination. with minesweeper you look at what the cursor is doing and not how your hand moves the mouse, nor do you check whether your finger is exactly in the middle of a sticker before you do a turn.
* Both games are solved according to the if-then logic. when I have this last layer situation I do that algorithm. similar with minesweeper: if there are two ones here, there cannot be a mine in the next field.
* In both games you learn turn orders by heart. with speedcubing algorithms, which one tries to execute faster and faster, or to get further advantages through last-layer control. with minesweeper one learns more and more patterns and tries to reduce unknown patterns to known ones faster and faster (to use known mines to subtract from the numbers 1).
* With both games you can save time by thinking ahead (but with minesweeper it is so difficult that a maximum of 5 people can do it).
* Practice makes perfect: a certain addiction factor cannot be denied. at first it's all about the challenge of solving something that the majority are not able to do, then you want to beat your own best time, then compete with others and finally the tournaments come.
* individual records depend a little on luck, but the more you play, the easier it is to assess a player's real playing strength.
* you don't have to be an athlete (michael gottlieb)
* small communities with intelligent people (michael gottlieb)

well, there are also a few small but fundamental differences:
* even if the board is generated with minesweeper after the first click (at least with the official versions - not windows minesweeper!), it is part of the principle of the game that the player does not know in advance where the mines are at the other end of the field that the mines are distributed absolutely randomly and that you have to guess from time to time. that's not always nice (it messed up 3 records with which I would be in front of manuel heider) but it ensures that it always remains a challenge (since you can't always win) and that you always have to anticipate quickly.
* minesweeper is a digital puzzle - speed cubing is normally an analog one.

any more questions about minesweeper?
Beginner: 3
Intermediate: 36
Expert: approx. 200 (I never do )

But hardly any games ...
(11/29/2010, 5:56 pm) Sébastien wrote: @ Fritz: Which Minesweeper version do you actually recommend? Can this 50/50 situation arise in the end with the official versions?

Hmm, sure, luck is always a factor ..
@sebastien: there are 4 official versions: Arbiter, Clone, Viennasweeper and Minesweeper X. all have their advantages and disadvantages, depending on what you need.

Minesweeper Clone: ​​the most used version. lots of indices and statistics, which the average professional doesn't need. records videos (with player names), allows videos to be played (also from arbiter) and games in UPK (cheat) mode to be played as often as you like. manko: 3 years old

Conclusion: never a bad choice

Minesweeper Arbiter: 2nd most popular version. indices that are not contained in clones, but are definitely interesting for an ambitious player. the latest version - regular updates. videos and UPK like clone. subjectively faster than clone (objectively max. 0.2s per game and only at> 5 clicks / s). very many (but sometimes hidden) features. manko: some computers run very slowly.

Conclusion: the best choice for the ambitious player. maybe a little too many features for the beginner.

Viennasweeper: records videos with player names and plays videos. hardly any indices. time trials: 10 beginners and tournament mode of the 2008 world cup.

conclusion: for minimalists

Minesweeper X: records videos, but without a player name. boards up to screen size (for example 57 * 78 for me). possibility to create your own skins (

Conclusion: is not bad, but ...

@ 50-50s: yes, the mines are absolutely randomly distributed. sometimes you win, sometimes not. the fact that you only have to guess at the end is purely subjective. with a few little tricks I manage to win 10 experts in 30 minutes despite randomly distributed mines (if I get down to it - normally speed is at all costs before completion and then 7-15 games per hour are normal)

@zhang shen jia: yep, just that.

@ ufo: at the end of the correctly guessing is luck, 140 3BV before it can be solved in under 45 seconds.

@sebastien (programming wisely): that would lead to a lot of tricky decisions. if you can solve a pattern by the number of other mines it is in principle not 50-50, but in the context of speedsweeping it is. officially, however, it will not be allowed to play without 50-50s.

@deepsubdiver: is that clone? ne old version? In the case of videos, it is important that you can see the timer. 3 times guesswork for no reason very good: very quickly anticipated and good clicks / s. could be improved: learn more patterns. then ne sub100 is loosely in there.
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